I don't use Apple crap so it's neither here nor there for me (but note to Windows users, you're already up shit creek as far as Microsoft's goofy "AI" shit goes and have been for a while).
As to whether I think there's any use for AI, results TBD. The only acceptable mode of use for me is running on my own devices, completely under my control and completely offline.
I have a local LLM that I've been working on for a while as sort of an art/research/toy project. In spite of throwing six months of free time at it, I'm still unconvinced that it's interesting. But I have no glorious plans to integrate it into my daily use/work. It's just a side project for use in tabletop roleplaying.
Sorry to break it to all the soys and bugmen who think that any time now they'll be writing programs or making art without having to learn anything, but AI is absolutely garbage at both tasks (saying this as a professional programmer and a semi-pro artist). It is never going to get any better. "Hallucination" is not a bug, it's a feature, and its incoherence is fundamental to its architecture. You will continue to be laughed out of the room any time you show up with AI generated shit. So don't try using it for that, it's a waste of time and energy.
Jun 11·edited Jun 11Liked by Morgthorak the Undead
Just what you need: for apple's products to be intelligent enough (hardeharhar) to tell you that something is broke, you aren't allowed to repair it, and you will have to buy a new apple product. Siri is bad enough.
AI is supposed to make Siri better, but I hardly use it anyway. It's faster just to do something myself rather than bother with Siri. I'm not a fan of digital assistants anyway, they all seem to suck.
Was extremely disappointed to see this news come out today, but I'm not surprised. I'm just waiting for the massive cope when everyone inevitably realizes AI isn't magic. I hope Apple reads the writing on the wall and takes great steps to protect privacy.
I still use a landline. My only "device" is a computer. When nudged to download AI (artificial idiocy) apps on my computer, my response is to hit "delete".
I will upgrade solely to make Siri be able to respond to a simple question or command on a level above a first grader. I will not be asking any life changing questions.
Siri certainly could use the help, and this might be apple’s last chance to get people to give it another shot. They haven’t done crap with it in years and years. Stupid name too. I hate it.
Some applications should be kept at a large distance from the OS. When Microsoft integrated Internet Explorer into the OS a huge security hole was the result.
I expect AI to be even worse.
But at least it will add a few minutes to bootup time.
(Admission: I do use AI for generating images. There, the defects are 90% of the fun.)
So I will assume Apple thinks AI is the next wave and expects massive leaps in power and “intelligence” will occur, as many do. But they also believe their human programmers will be able to maintain a “security edge” against ever evolving AI. Sounds like absolute hubris to me, even though I don’t believe AI is going to be “all that and a bag of chips.”
Apple is desperate, they missed the boat on AI and had to scramble to stick it in all their products. That's what worries me, this reeks of a half-ass effort on their part.
Jun 11·edited Jun 11Liked by Morgthorak the Undead
so Google just issued a huge fuck-you to android device users.
supposedly you can opt out but I don't believe it's more than a toggle switch drawn on in crayon.
Apple did this years ago (back while I was still repairing their garbage) for their airtag devices. your device (hardware and network bandwidth you've paid for) searches for and reports to the company approved Bluetooth devices in the background. not just your devices, everything it can see.
"Finding your offline devices
Your lost device may not always be online. To help you find your offline devices, Find My Device can also collect, store, and use encrypted location information sent by your Android device and others participating in the Find My Device network.
Leveraging the power of a crowdsourced network of Android devices, the Find My Device network can help you find a wide range of items, including Android phones and tablets that are offline, Fast Pair accessories like compatible earbuds, and tracker tags that you can attach to physical assets like your wallet, keys, or bike.
The network has been developed with advanced safeguards, including end-to-end encryption, to help protect the privacy of everyone participating in the network.
By default, your Android device stores encrypted recent locations with Google and participates in the Find My Device network, a crowdsourced network of Android devices that uses end-to-end encrypted location information to help you and other Android users find their lost devices.
If these offline finding features are enabled on your device, Find My Device will use the best source available — your device's current location if it's online, a stored encrypted recent location from when your device was last online, or a crowdsourced encrypted location from other Android devices in the Find My Device network — to help you find your device.
Find My Device collects and processes data for the purposes of providing, maintaining, and improving these services, as described further below. The data processed by Find My Device is handled in accordance with the Google Privacy Policy.
Finding your online devices
When you use Find My Device to help find an online device, Find My Device communicates with your lost Android device and collects its current location and other information such as your device’s battery level, the Wi-Fi network it's connected to, and the strength of its Wi-Fi and cellular signal. Find My Device displays this information in the app to help you find your lost device.
Find My Device also collects information such as connection events (for example, when your earbuds were last connected to your phone) to help you find your accessories by displaying the location of the device to which your accessory is currently connected.
Find My Device also collects identifiers that associate your Android devices and accessories to your Google Account, and information about actions taken through Find My Device, such as whether your Google Account was used to lock or erase your device, and whether the action was completed successfully.
How does crowdsourcing work?
Android devices participating in the Find My Device network use Bluetooth to scan for nearby items. If they detect your items, they securely send the location where they detected the items to Find My Device. Your Android device does the same to help others find their lost items when it detects them nearby."
there's more idiocy but I'm not copy/pasting it all. read from the horse's talking out the side of its face here if interested:
I don't use Apple crap so it's neither here nor there for me (but note to Windows users, you're already up shit creek as far as Microsoft's goofy "AI" shit goes and have been for a while).
As to whether I think there's any use for AI, results TBD. The only acceptable mode of use for me is running on my own devices, completely under my control and completely offline.
I have a local LLM that I've been working on for a while as sort of an art/research/toy project. In spite of throwing six months of free time at it, I'm still unconvinced that it's interesting. But I have no glorious plans to integrate it into my daily use/work. It's just a side project for use in tabletop roleplaying.
Sorry to break it to all the soys and bugmen who think that any time now they'll be writing programs or making art without having to learn anything, but AI is absolutely garbage at both tasks (saying this as a professional programmer and a semi-pro artist). It is never going to get any better. "Hallucination" is not a bug, it's a feature, and its incoherence is fundamental to its architecture. You will continue to be laughed out of the room any time you show up with AI generated shit. So don't try using it for that, it's a waste of time and energy.
Already getting sick of AI in all its forms, I don’t want texts produced by AI, and I certainly won’t use it myself.
Apparently, Apple’s shares dropped somewhat after their announcement 🙄
Yes, there wasn't much announced to excite shareholders. Kind of blah if you ask me.
Agree!
Just what you need: for apple's products to be intelligent enough (hardeharhar) to tell you that something is broke, you aren't allowed to repair it, and you will have to buy a new apple product. Siri is bad enough.
AI is supposed to make Siri better, but I hardly use it anyway. It's faster just to do something myself rather than bother with Siri. I'm not a fan of digital assistants anyway, they all seem to suck.
Thanks for the warning on this.
No problem, you're welcome. I think a lot of people who don't pay attention to tech are likely to be surprised in September, and not in a good way.
Was extremely disappointed to see this news come out today, but I'm not surprised. I'm just waiting for the massive cope when everyone inevitably realizes AI isn't magic. I hope Apple reads the writing on the wall and takes great steps to protect privacy.
Indeed, I believe skepticism is in order here. I will wait for a very long time to see what happens. I suspect it's going to be a big mess.
I hope Raven posts, he knows a lot about AI.
I still use a landline. My only "device" is a computer. When nudged to download AI (artificial idiocy) apps on my computer, my response is to hit "delete".
I will upgrade solely to make Siri be able to respond to a simple question or command on a level above a first grader. I will not be asking any life changing questions.
Siri certainly could use the help, and this might be apple’s last chance to get people to give it another shot. They haven’t done crap with it in years and years. Stupid name too. I hate it.
Pretty dumb. I’m risking the Apple Intelligence. 🤨
Some applications should be kept at a large distance from the OS. When Microsoft integrated Internet Explorer into the OS a huge security hole was the result.
I expect AI to be even worse.
But at least it will add a few minutes to bootup time.
(Admission: I do use AI for generating images. There, the defects are 90% of the fun.)
So I will assume Apple thinks AI is the next wave and expects massive leaps in power and “intelligence” will occur, as many do. But they also believe their human programmers will be able to maintain a “security edge” against ever evolving AI. Sounds like absolute hubris to me, even though I don’t believe AI is going to be “all that and a bag of chips.”
Apple is desperate, they missed the boat on AI and had to scramble to stick it in all their products. That's what worries me, this reeks of a half-ass effort on their part.
so Google just issued a huge fuck-you to android device users.
supposedly you can opt out but I don't believe it's more than a toggle switch drawn on in crayon.
Apple did this years ago (back while I was still repairing their garbage) for their airtag devices. your device (hardware and network bandwidth you've paid for) searches for and reports to the company approved Bluetooth devices in the background. not just your devices, everything it can see.
"Finding your offline devices
Your lost device may not always be online. To help you find your offline devices, Find My Device can also collect, store, and use encrypted location information sent by your Android device and others participating in the Find My Device network.
Leveraging the power of a crowdsourced network of Android devices, the Find My Device network can help you find a wide range of items, including Android phones and tablets that are offline, Fast Pair accessories like compatible earbuds, and tracker tags that you can attach to physical assets like your wallet, keys, or bike.
The network has been developed with advanced safeguards, including end-to-end encryption, to help protect the privacy of everyone participating in the network.
By default, your Android device stores encrypted recent locations with Google and participates in the Find My Device network, a crowdsourced network of Android devices that uses end-to-end encrypted location information to help you and other Android users find their lost devices.
If these offline finding features are enabled on your device, Find My Device will use the best source available — your device's current location if it's online, a stored encrypted recent location from when your device was last online, or a crowdsourced encrypted location from other Android devices in the Find My Device network — to help you find your device.
Find My Device collects and processes data for the purposes of providing, maintaining, and improving these services, as described further below. The data processed by Find My Device is handled in accordance with the Google Privacy Policy.
Finding your online devices
When you use Find My Device to help find an online device, Find My Device communicates with your lost Android device and collects its current location and other information such as your device’s battery level, the Wi-Fi network it's connected to, and the strength of its Wi-Fi and cellular signal. Find My Device displays this information in the app to help you find your lost device.
Find My Device also collects information such as connection events (for example, when your earbuds were last connected to your phone) to help you find your accessories by displaying the location of the device to which your accessory is currently connected.
Find My Device also collects identifiers that associate your Android devices and accessories to your Google Account, and information about actions taken through Find My Device, such as whether your Google Account was used to lock or erase your device, and whether the action was completed successfully.
How does crowdsourcing work?
Android devices participating in the Find My Device network use Bluetooth to scan for nearby items. If they detect your items, they securely send the location where they detected the items to Find My Device. Your Android device does the same to help others find their lost items when it detects them nearby."
there's more idiocy but I'm not copy/pasting it all. read from the horse's talking out the side of its face here if interested:
https://support.google.com/android/answer/14796936
I'd look for some sort of analysis of it, to see if it actually turns it off. Somebody probably wrote or will write something about it.
Off topic But look at what Microsoft are doing and look at their description of SBI. This is Asmon's take.
https://youtu.be/JsTcMPIhm-8