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Rooster's avatar

Just because pickup owners drive one doesn’t mean they know *how* to drive one. We have many winding back roads and you can be assured that at least once or twice before you get into town, there will be an oncoming vehicle in your lane and it will almost always be a pickup. The absolute worst are the jacked up pickups. I pity those drivers for their tiny, tiny penis size that require such overkill compensation.

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Morgthorak the Undead πŸ’€'s avatar

Excellent point, and very true. A lot of them don't seem to know how to drive those things at all. I've seen the jacked up ones too, and they look ridiculous. πŸ™„

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John Lawrence's avatar

Rear wheel drive with almost no axle weight is a bad mix, especially on a slick surface. I try to tell friends looking for truck to test a Ridgeline, which has an all-wheel-drive set and stays amazingly well planted on the road. I took mine through the mountains in Arizona during their monsoon season, and I never had an issue with traction.

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David Shimm's avatar

I wonder how those accident numbers would work out per vehicle mile. Accord, Camry, Civic, Altima, and Corolla are listed pretty high, but since there are so many on the road, I'd bet their accidents per vehicle mile would be a lot lower than most of the pickups.

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Morgthorak the Undead πŸ’€'s avatar

Good point, David. You are likely right.

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Brigitte's avatar

I am so sorry this happened to you. I live in major pickup / Jeep country and don’t have too many problems with them. Here, the #1 offending car is the Chevy Traverse. This one particular car model is favored by our area’s worst drivers.

The Traverse drivers (around here, anyway) tend to scramble really fast to turn out right in front of you when there is NOBODY BEHIND YOU and they could just wait 2 more seconds, then drive right in front of your for miles at 25 in a 55 zone. They also must have gigantic blind spots, because they tend to want to change lanes when someone is in their blind spots. Either that or they just drift over the dividing without noticing.

Your readers enjoy your delivery stories. I’m sorry you had a bad day. Thank you for being a delivery driver. We rely heavily on delivery drivers.

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Morgthorak the Undead πŸ’€'s avatar

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. I have been doing deliveries for more than a year, so what I've said here has been going on since I started doing it. I've seen a consistent pattern in bad driving by pickup truck and jeep drivers.

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Mile High Bear's avatar

Oh, man YEAH. Delivery is the backbone of our consumer-based economy. I LOVE that I can order a pizza or Chinese food and have it driven literally right to my front door step. Drivers ALWAYS get 25% tip or more from me, depending on level of service. Darn well said, Brigitte.

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Freeq O’Nature's avatar

Be safe! I think the worst drivers are the ones who need their test translated into English. Wtf?! If they can’t read english they can’t read the signs! Get them off the road.

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Copernican's avatar

No no, it's racist to criticize them. don't do that!

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Robert Garron's avatar

You've got my roadside experiences down to a tee!

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Melissa's avatar

I have jumped out of the road while walking my dog for 1. Pickup driven by some young yahoo wearing a baseball cap. 2. Jeeps driven by a woman 3. The little old lady who likes my dog and aims the her car right at me smiling the whole way.

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

Pickup truck driver here, but it's for work because I'm a contractor and regularly towing. Was a 2002 cummins, but just switched to a 2000 f350. The new trucks with bling are usually awful; the contractor trucks are usually better, at least in my part of the country. They're just wanting to work in peace. Jeeps though - they're almost always awful. College kids and people with too much money trying to show off. If they have mudder tires = disaster

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Copernican's avatar

Jeep pickup truck = gold standard.

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

Done

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glenn's avatar

Completely agree. Most folks I see using their trucks for a living don’t behave like this. It’s the ones with massive lift kits and too wide ginormous tires that are very aggressive. Bonus points for the morons that chip their engines to β€œroll coal” billowing out giant plumes of black smoke.

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

Yeah. There’s deleting emissions to make them run better, and then deleting them to roll coal - two massively different things. One is to increase efficiency of the vehicle - MPG, EGTs, HP, etc. The second actually makes it less efficient and look like a tool.

Now, on the manual trucks some of them you’ll get some smoke when shifting. That’s just how the engines work with the transmissions. But that’s it. Also, it’s still less on the environment when calculating replacement of the vehicle and parts than on the fuel/emissions. The EPA rules are retarded.

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glenn's avatar

LOL. Volkswagen did this in their TDI engines, where they had programs to detect emission testing, and would set the computer to pass inspection. I had one for 5 years, and noticed certain conditions would activate EPA mode, and fuel economy would tank. It did other bizarre things I would talk with the VW service about they claimed did exist. Then the scandal hit. But I digress. Certainly, the EPA has issues, but a lot of the bizarre rules come from the power of the CARB (CA air resource board), a highly politicized bunch driving the rules, that long ago forgot their mission.

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

Yeah. CARB needs to die in a fire.

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glenn's avatar

The shear size of modern pickups (post 2008 or so) builds overconfidence. Adding the ridiculous lifts and ultra wide tires makes for terrible handling. Then, you have the massive engines trying for sport sedan like speeds is a recipe for disaster in avoidance maneuvers. I grew up driving commercial trucks, and their size and height had purpose, to accommodate massive load bearing tires and frames to carry massive loads, with service lives for 200 to 400k miles. I was taught the size and weight was a liability, and had to watch a quarter mile down the road to plan for possible maneuvers if cars made abrupt stops or lane changes. Tractor trailer rigs have even more complications.

Yet, auto makers have ballooned the size of the average pickup close to commercial trucks. Why? The dramatically increased height makes it hard to load and unload the bed, or access tools. A lift kit makes pickups nearly unusable as a work truck. Still, they sell like hotcakes. I’ve yet to drive a current generation pickup that didn’t handle like a boat and would motivate me for extra caution on the road. Trucks are the latest fad for the β€œI own the road’ crowd, and in general, are the most popular and profitable vehicles for automakers. I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon.

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Β© David's avatar

I remember the "old" automotive days when pickup trucks had tremendous power but they were heavy and not geared for sport performance. Sometime in the 2000s, as trucks and SUVs became big sellers, manufacturers started pumping up these truck powertrains with some serious power and now you have SUVs and trucks that can outrun many passenger cars. I remember when the Ford F150 Lightning was released and being amazed how a truck could be so fast. Now they all are!

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Fabius Minarchus's avatar

There are boatloads of crew cab pickups on the road because the government effectively outlawed full sized sedans with decent sized trunks. Most of those crew cab pickups have less bed capacity than the four cylinder ultra cheap pickup I drove in high school.

These modern "pickups" have a rather carlike ride. Springs too soft to be real trucks. But they still have the higher center of gravity to be less steady on the road than an old school sedan.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

Gods, I hate those halogen headlights. I'm tempted to get a police searchlight mounted on my sedan just to blind them back, but some idiot would probably head-on me if I did.

Glad to see that my Hyundai Sonata didn't make the list. I like pickups--they're great tools for many and I AM from Texas--but they're not necessary for most, including me, so I stick with sedans. Besides, I like getting 25+ miles per gallon.

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Mile High Bear's avatar

Pickup truck drivers, especially military-age males tend to be less risk-averse and may be young and/or inexperienced enough to not realize just how easy it is for their beloved pickup truck to fishtail. It is VERY easy to lose control of a pickup on a rainy day, let alone with snow and ice present. When I had to drive a couple for work (until my network truck with the phone pole lift on top was repaired) I intentionally put eight sandbags in the back over the rear tires to help the truck maybe not fishtail so much. Even still, I hated every minute of it. This alone would lead many to understand it doesn't take rocket science to figure out what's going on here.

I've had lots of delivery/courier jobs in my past and agree 100% with this view. Great post, and stay safe.

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Eric Rubin's avatar

Hi Morgthorak! I drive a Jeep. Please accept my apologies, my A-pillar is so thick, I can’t properly see and it’s a terrible blind spot. Grand Cherokee. I hope you forgive me.

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Morgthorak the Undead πŸ’€'s avatar

You are fine as long as you stay off the road while I'm doing deliveries! Sit in your home, I will email you when I am done and then you can drive where you want. πŸ˜‰

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Laggy's avatar

Stupid bright headlights, improperly adjusted

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John Lawrence's avatar

What's interesting about your graphic is that there's a definite divide between the type of truck being driven. The ones with all the accidents are the full-sized vehicles (F-150, Silverado, and Ram). The mid-sized Tacoma, which sells hand over fist, is way down on the list, followed by the another mid-sizer, the Ranger. The Frontier (which I now drive) and the Ridgeline (my wife's vehicle) don't even make the list (but there are less of them out there).

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Joseph L. Wiess's avatar

Pickup truck drivers drive like maniacs even in heavy rain, snow and icy road conditions. These idiots always want to do 90 MPH even in dangerous road conditions on the back roads! Worse, they tailgate me frequently despite the fact that I have a β€œdelivery driver” sign on the back of my vehicle.

As an owner of a pickup truck, I take offense. 🀣 I don't tailgate people, I accelerate and go around, usually with a wave of my hand. I think the drivers in your neck of the woods are just assholes.

The only reason I own a truck is because I'm getting to that age where it's too painful to fold myself into a little car that sits on the ground. But then again, I don't usually go much faster than 65mph. I'm never in that much of a hurry.

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Copernican's avatar

What are bicyclists doing on the road anyway? Shoo! That's for cars, you silly goose.

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